Megachurch Pastor Bob Coy abruptly resigned Sunday afternoon, ending his 30-year leadership at one of the largest churches in the country. # 8. I have spent years hearing people around me saying, Bob Coy is so funny!, Bob Coy knows how to do church! ad nauseum. . Bob Coy may not have been a good pastor but he was a great Bible teacher (amalekites, perizzites, canaanites OH MY!) This is a subject matter that is common and not just to Calvary Chapel but to all churches and to all spheres and walks of life, and something that no one has mentioned is the spiritual warfare we are in, and how anyone who is seeking to serve the Lord or preaches his word will be attacked, its not surprising that Bob Coy fell, what is surprising is that more men who are serving the Lord arent falling. MLD- Jesus wasnt literal and theres no book in your hand. Was a 2nd announcement made today at services? Not one of us is perfect, which is why we are to put our faith in the Lord, not in man. I say years because it is easy to fake a Come to Jesus moment for a year maybe two. Coy then moved to an even more debauched scene: Las Vegas. Our pastor, he committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography. One day I will explain to you what the means. Thanks for your words. Those in his wake need compassion. He can't be put in a position of power ever again," Newnham stressed. etc. The church didn't respond to a detailed set of questions from New Times, instead sending a general statement about the former pastor. Michael, one of the best messages I heard was when you posted Bob Sweats message on this topic. CC will be ok, they will experience a separation of the wheat from the chaff which is healthy the sad part is there will be a number that like Peter will go back fishing but even they will not be lost if their heart truly is the Lords. MLD, you have the right of it. Some of these churches/groups that are so antithetical to anything that could possibly be considered ecumenical may in fact be unable to discern wheat from chaff. {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. Prayers for restoration and healing of the flock and his family. If he keeps looking at us, Jesus followers, he will be disappointed because were all unfinished art projects. And the local newspapers would never write anything negative about him. It was scheduled and was cancelled. Its good if they get hardened, although some will probably drift away because their real worship was in Coy. Most of us live in glass houses anyway. Ive sat under some horrible pastors that taught fairly well. Yes, I was on staff a long time ago and didnt like the behind the scenes stuff. Do you ever think about the emotional damage you cause these women or the families you break up? Its a constant throughout human history. When he made them laugh he had them. How is that any different than the Bob Coy situation? God bless you all. Sorry, been in and outlong night on many fronts. Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. Very. im sad. This church has operated as BC was the end all be all. I still live Pastor Bob. How you define orthodoxy isnt the final word on the matter, is it? Coddington was charged with a misdemeanor and pleaded guilty on April 7, 2005. It is just people like we PhoenixPreacher-ites who dont follow the rules that leave. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Not judge him!! Coy was a conmanthis was going on for a long time and he was basically giving Jesus the finger?? Many of the next generation of customizers started their career with Coddington. He would simply confessown it all publiclywrite a new book on his time offand marvel at Gods grace toward him. Pride paves the way to infidelity and/or sexual indiscretions. They didnt have to. Then all were invited up to search their hearts. They had the opportunity to speak clearly to this before anyone else. The chapel's founder, Kent Nottingham, told a local TV station that there'd been no suspicion of abuse and that he was "shocked.". I agree with Michael, that MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. I must say that in knowing very little about the build up to this story, it appears that the church took much faster action in dismissing Coy than in the case of Mike Kestler. Thank you for sharing this hard news, Michael. These pastors are lifted up and deified and made into celebrities, so then it becomes Bob Coys church Raul Riess church Greg Lauries church instead of the Church of Jesus Christ, and when these men fall the little gods we had erected fall and then we can hear God say, I am God and I am still on the throne!. Now lets help him get back to his feet. I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. It was also difficult to be someone who had discernment there. I love this while trying to mock me Flynn said I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said:. The church should set a mechanism for those that dont know how to deal with their sin to discretely discuss it and decide how to move forward. Documents show that Coral Springs cops sat on the accusations for months before dropping the inquiry without even interviewing Coy. Huge crowds hung on his every word. Youre just twisting Acts 2. I knew/know many who know him and he has no skeletons. If someone tried to start a ministry that they had no control over (even Bible studies) they were often shut down. He found work as the entertainment director at the Jolly Trolley, a storefront casino and strip club, where he said he wasted away his early 20s in a haze of sex, coke, and alcohol. "We need to stop him. Now this man was their bishop and without a bishop they were not sure if they would still be a church what to do? Face reality how could he be in the word and not be under conviction ? I digress. Not so, true Christianity is to be able to answer the question truthfully that you and your ilk are continually asking when it comes to other peoples sins, but your cowardice and hypocrisy shows, as you deviate the question with empty hallmark pseudo wisdom, well heres one for you whats good for the goose is good for the gander! Ive been married for over 3 decades to the same woman. Were not going to speculate on the blogs right now, he said. We all need to take the telephone pole out of our own eye before we look at the speck of dust in our brothers eye. Bible preaching and teaching is being dumbed down, so that you have to read everything literally, imposing 21 century ideas of history and science on the text, or your not a faithful Christian. You are a funny guy 1st you quote to me Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, and then you tell me you JUST READ THE BIBLE which is it. In the same vein, Sharon had no cause for alarm. 21 FOR THEN THERE WILL BE GREAT DISTRESS, UNEQUALED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD UNTIL NOW, AND NEVER TO BE EQUALED AGAIN. But this situation hurts my heart so much. Coy rented space for his church from a funeral parlor in Oakland Park and made ends meet by selling shoes while his wife worked as a waitress. As spring breakers poured into Fort Lauderdale to bong beers, he set up "The Recovery Room" at the Jolly Roger motel, where he offered live music, first aid, and of course Evangelical literature. I was feeling horrible.". That is precisely what I was working my way to. How is it bogus? dont know if this is what you were going for but.. Used to be able to go space8)space & get the smiley with sunglasses. Well, thats simply not true either and not quantifiable. I cant believe some of the comments Ive read here and on CCAbuse. I believe with God all things are possible. This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. That is actually their responsibility. We who are conservative Christians love to lecture the world about their sins. My advice, not that Im anybody, is to keep your eyes on God an always seek MATURE counsel. Only such as are born of the Holy Spirit and receive Jesus Christ become children of God and heirs of eternal life. I just came across this blog and it appears to be hosted by a CCFL attendee. So much happened in so short a time-it seemed that after moving from the warehouse to the new building, things exploded. @ 395 I posted a link- Please read it. My prayers are for them that they dont fall away, that they dont dismiss this and purely look the other way. Beating a brother up as you mention Im sure is not what Jesus meant by loving your enemy and turning the other cheek! The MLK trail transcript makes it clear from witness testimony that the MLK crime scene was barricaded by police within 2 minutes of King getting shot. Let the rescue mission begin. Smith even launched a music label and began fusing Evangelical faith with electric guitars and drum kits. I have absolutely no sympathy for the adulterer. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale (CCFL) is an evangelical, charismatic megachurch in Florida, with over 20,000 worshipers attending on average. I have been lurking the past few days and your rabid attacks on Michael are evidence of your profound dissatisfaction with yourself and your need to project your own dissonance on him, me or others who you refuse to dialog with. MLD Daniel 4: Vs 16 Seven times pass over him A time may logically be thought of as a year considering that a year is a natural time unit, the longest one. I go by erunner as I dont know if people would know who I am if I went by Allan so even though my name is known I stick with the moniker. I hear you, but keep it PG. Barbara. Not everything that calls itself Christian, actually is. For her perfecting, she awaits the return of her Lord. I Am His: Diane Coy. I love God and Jesus so much that is why I feel and pray the best for Bob Coy and his family. 13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and they that harass Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim. Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. We did not have the luxury of all those in ministry on his payroll. Yep pre mil dispies are replacement theologians, Gotta run, me and the wife are clocking out of work and going home. Others have met as well so we are a bit of a family although not admired by all. God is and will continue to deal with Bob. What I did say is held by 80% of the Church today. 16 And there shall be a highway for the remnant of His people, that shall remain from Assyria, like as there was for Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt. AND YES I KNOW THEY ARE CONNECTED AND PRIDE COMES BEFORE Ive seen knock out hot girls in tight dresses looking more like they are going clubbing than to Gods house stand in line to get a picture with him, he was your Pastor girls and MARRIED hes not a freakin rock star. He was forced to resign. When a Todd Bently or a Jim Bakker fell it was a totally different reaction for me as I saw them as dangerous men due to their teaching, etc. If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. Looks like the night shift worked some OT last night.. PS He always said that he didnt want to turn anyone away. You represented well. The only one who was worried was Vince. We have to consider this each time we place anyone near to or above God. Have you wrote Bob ripping him for his sin and asking for proof of repentance? Was any reference at all made to the transistion. Anonymity has been part of my schtick too for most of the time here. They also had a singer who wore tight jeans that may not have been by todays standards showy, but her mannerisms drew attention and I would look at the men in the audience and see all their eyes were on her- and I am sure she knew it. I actually have a lot of experience in having to deal with unwanted attention from married men both at work and at church. A core of my current belief system is that none are truly transformed when they are saved. The more I learn about the business of Christianity, the book deals, compensation, speaking fees, book reviews, book forwards, blogs about books (no offense Michael), radio and television shows, etc., the more I can empathize with people who have given up organized Christianity for house churches or other alternative church structures. He also earned more than $100,000 from The Masters Seminary the same year. 10:13) Every man needs accountability. Put away your golden calf and stop your man worship. These guys are not special and they are not anointed. I feel bad for the wife and kids .BOB COY another Tiger Woodshey kids your father is that womanizer right..the media will have a field day. You wait your turn. I guess Im the rookie of the bunch since this blogging stuff is my first round ever participating in such, but I have to say Im amazed and taken aback by the acidic, sarcastic, jabbing, slandering; lets say it absolute hateful jabs at one another ( just do a speed read at 476 thru 1!). Physically and mentally- and this blog helped me tremendously because there were others here who shared the same story. MLD, your Acts 2 interpretation is from Luther. If you answered yes to all 7 questions you are a Preterist Scripture denying Calvinist! This is exactly why we are to rely on God and not in man. And Israel becoming a nation in 1948? 15 And the LORD will utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with His scorching wind will He shake His hand over the River, and will smite it into seven streams, and cause men to march over dry-shod. I suspect that the laughs made him realize it worked..got more people in and maybe it became like a treadmill that you can never get off of. No excuses, no buts. 6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. Even in the chemically altered '70s music business, Coy's appetites were too voracious. who can be objective and NOT tell people to just forgive. Now, tell me how you play around and allow yourself to be tempted. "My heart is breaking for my Church, my Pastor and his family," wrote Marie L. Harris in a Facebookcomment. We have been waiting for him to make things right. http://watch-unto-prayer.org/rapture.html#propaganda, Inasmuch, therefore, as the opinions of certain [orthodox persons] are derived from heretical discourses, they are both ignorant of Gods dispensations, and of the mystery of the resurrection of the just, and of the [earthly] kingdom which is the commencement of incorruption, by means of which kingdom those who shall be worthy are accustomed gradually to partake of the divine nature (capere Deum ); and it is necessary to tell them respecting those things, that it behoves the righteous first to receive the promise of the inheritance which God promised to the fathers, and to reign in it, when they rise again to behold God in this creation which is renovated, and that the judgment should take place afterwards. (Against Heresies, Book V, 30.4). Did the Holy Spirit reveal this to you? Martin Luthers Disciple ~ Take heed proud guy, least you with all your proud grace fall also. According to sources familiar with the matter, Coy confessed to key leaders on Wednesday. Make your own application, Bob wrote: Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. Do you think that this is the only sin we are all vulnerable to ? For one thing if you had accountability partners and people that youre answerable to like you claim, then you would not have this blog as a tool of Satan, accusing the brethren, you are just a discontented wannabe pastor who meets in a living room with 10 people, criticizing and begrudging the work of God because youre not part of it! It will do him wonders. LOL, go and pray about it. Leadership is not a right, its a privilege. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale spokesman Mike Miller said Monday the church was not commenting beyond its statement. Again, welcome. Something wrong there. Hes resigned so let it be. Then she drew a stick figure lying in the road. Are you really without sin in your life? Lastly, if the assumption of some is correct (that Coy will re-surface soon..to be reinstated), would any mature believer out there choose to sit under the teaching of a re-cycled pastor in favor of a shepherd who will lead Gods flock with integrity of heart? Im not accountable to you for my sin. Michael, youre kicking against Gods goading and your colors are showing. I was thinking bull, too, just without the china-shop analogy.. Re: moral failings They do not expound because they do not WANT to expound. Read broadly from people who have some form of biblical training. Kempner had a historyand was unrepentantuntil I posted the arrest record. God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. Michael said, Who is his congregation? When we forget that, thats when we abuse the offices entrusted to us, men and women both. I can see this except for one very big deal. Bob isnt. They did for a while, but after she SWAT Season 6 Episode 16: Now that the new S.W.A.T. Lets give him room to breathe and an opportunity to make things right with God, then his family before we are so quick to cast stones. Serious people interpret the Bible and serious people disagree. Ok. we still want to see evidence. Not a witch hunt at all. Unless you will claim that Revelation is not part of the Bible. This is a blog for scoffers, haters and mockers! I think that older men with less testosterone can dodge these bullets. So, when they said, clean out your desk, he did.. Calvary Doral, Boynton Beach, Coral Springs and now Fort Lauderdale. (tvacute.com)Here we explained everything. Scary how someone can look you in the eye, while doing a sermon filled with lies. You said you werent CC, and didnt know B Coy, but now your motive is clear, so youve been lying all along. Anonymous I know what youre speaking about there was defiantly is a we know better attitude through the church as is with any structured environment but I on at least (3) occasions took Bob to task on issues I questioned and each time he heard and reasoned with me, one time conceded, one time there was a healing between two churches and one time we agreed I was taking a bit too much license and should stay on the set point to which I conceded. She loves binge-watching and can spend hours talking about movies and TV shows. May the same be done to Bob Coy. I lean towards Calvinism but not even close to Dominion-ism. I have respected his request. Ill go first. Money really is the root of all kinds of evil. Oh now its inappropriate!!! Youre just twisting Acts 2 in the same way. My information is that he doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell of coming back. In the Coy case, though, Payne never made that kind of headway. Were total screw-ups, we readily admit it, but youre a damn fool to try to get a read on Jesus Christ from any of us. But that doesnt mean you are any less capable of doing the same bad things you did before you were officially savedand the mindset is that, Well hed never do that, hes been transformed by the power of Jesus!well, no, that isnt true. We can all get through this. This man was struggling with sin. Plantation? Bob did it. and Why? 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Sheesh, somebody tell that Alex guy to re-open comments. 7. I am Michaels friend and have known him for several years now. So do II just ate half a box of Chicken in a Biskit and have terrible indigestion. Flynn, what else have you learned from Chuck Missler and your Schofield Bible?. Michael Newnham, a pastor from Oregon whose blog " Phoenix Preacher " details the scandals swirling around Calvary Chapel, pointed to sources claiming that Coy is trying to mobilize investors, because he . Coy's life story is biblical in scope and obvious in moral lessons. Can you provide some more info links, etc.? 2.) Be strong and have Faith.. Everyone loves u and repentance will heal..prayers to u and your family. 8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adders den. And I know firsthand that some of the Pastors of these churches knew by mid-week what was going down. ", "I haven't prayed enough for my Pastor Bob and his family," Beth Graber wrote. Was Nero the anti christ? Diane Schuler Case | Wrong Way Crash Kills 8 Jay is 4 Justice Podcast 87.9K subscribers Join Subscribe 243 Share 8.7K views 1 year ago #dianeschuler. He has bought out 7 churches in a small area and there is another church following in his footsteps also doing the same. The children inside the vehicle have no pulse except Diane's son Bryan. 2nd, I dont believe much that I see quoted on these rapture ready type web sites. 10 czerwca 2022 It is my hope and prayer that you find healing and peace. We all know the scriptures and as a previous poster mentioned let he who is without sin cast the first stone, to that I would add, considering ourselves lest we also be tempted!. So do we go to punishment or restoration? I mark you as a false teacher whose teaching is, what were the words you used of others??? Maybe more need to hear it. Hope you stick around. The woman got away without a scratch. Bob chose to do that. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. The problem is that youre not with Christ Jesus, who looked at Peter with compassion, but youre with a different being, an angelic being who accuses the brethren day and night! What about the husbands and children of the women you use just for kicks, so you dont get bored? An open church service on Sunday at 4 p.m. included worship, reading of a letter from Coy and the reading of a statement from board, followed by honest sharing of a reminder that Jesus is leading and that the church will move forward together. Michael, Concerning your #131 post In the aftermath of what happened to me at a CC church with a serial adulterer (most of you know of whom I speak,) I have maintained off and on contact these past ten years with 4 of the women who also told this pastor NO when he propositioned them. "If we go off the record, I could tell you a lot," he says. Did you commit adultery with them? In late 2013, Chuck Smith died at the age of 86 after battling lung cancer. awesome. "There were no other allegations," he says. For everyone. He never hid who he was," says Tina Rivera-John, who began attending Calvary in the mid-'90s when she was 12 years old. I dont take pleasure in his fall but it appeared inevitable. Normally Chuck would have not wasted this asset unless what Coy did was to outrageous to cover up. Any constructive criticism was seen as divisive. Bob deserves what ever happens to him and has others said that does not include returning to his post as pastor. He and his wife actually had real world experience risking their necks for the sake of the gospel and giving the selves for themselves for the least of the lost in war torn Liberia in the late 90s. Do you care about anyone but yourself? Over two decades, Coy had built a small storefront church into Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, a 25,000-member powerhouse that packed Dolphin Stadium for Easter services while Coy hosted everyone from George W. Bush to Benjamin Netanyahu. what do japanese restaurants say when you leave, misterios del rosario martes,