You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. Been over 17 years with TS. i think they both have there place . I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. https://vimeo.com/739678 I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . Think about your future: I'm not sure about your analysis. New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. Every vendor who is exclusive is losing money and customers. [google14]url:http://www.google.com. At least some aspects of it. It is all about customer reputation and perception. Maybe it is unnecessary complex? [quote]2. What would be your opinion? However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. Payment Method Ts indeed was able to maneuver into a very dominant position regarding the Autodesk partnership, allot of us are very familiar with that place because of it. Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. TurboSquid. Some points for and against. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. Yes, @limonadinis, I agree with you. Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. Exclusivity to any marketplace has been proved a revenue loss. Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Search is arguably most important feature of stocks and search in TS is head and shoulders (and then some more) above search in CGT. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. How about Negotiated price? So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. The very best thing I find on CGT is the disponibility of the team. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. My friend didn't get any support. Just my fifty cents. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. I do not know if micro-managing brand or front-page appeal helps drive sales more effectively on other sites than on CGTrader. Reputation for promptly fixing problems? . This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. @dafunk @S/C. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. Not artist friendly at all, from uploading to statistics (Model views, downloads, and so on). I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. I'm done with them. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. The biggest problem with TS is that it is a pyramid scheme if you have a diamond account you have a good chance of selling models but at the low levels you have no chance. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. Hi John, you made very valid points. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! I wouldn't ever use their site just on principle. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". So the staff there tries to work Site issues? Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). That is the most important reason for them to be on CGTrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money! @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. In this case the fastest support can not help. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. Renderer: Cyclse. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. Please let us know if you have any feedback. It takes way too long to put up any files. Same for me, here. Click here to submit yours . CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. Cgtrader cannot compare to certain 3d markets.
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